Fellow annihilationists/conditionalists Ronnie and Joey Dear join me for more than 3 hours to discuss Ronnie’s debate with TurretinFan, my debate with Hiram Diaz, and arguments made against our view following the debate. This episode contains part two of three; listen to episodes 72 and 74 for parts one and three, respectively.
Music
- Rotersand, Exterminate Annihilate Destroy from the album, Welcome to Goodbye, 2005
Promoted Resources
- Ronnie’s Consuming Fire blog
- Joey Dear’s online presence
- Joey’s “tome” defending annihilationism, The Bible Teaches Annihilationism.
- Ronnie’s debate with TurretinFan (part 1 and part 2)
- My debate with Hiram Diaz (part 1 and part 2)
- My friend Michael Burgos’ ministry, Grassroots Apologetics
- Michael Burgos’ article, “Three Arguments Against Annihilationism“
- Hiram Diaz’ article, “Do Matthew 3:11-12 and Malachi 4:1-6 Support Annihilationism?“
- Hiram Diaz’ article, “Is Matthew 5:21-26 Merely Earthly Legal Advice?“
- Hiram Diaz’ article, “Utter Destruction and Consumption: Allowing Context to Define the Key Terms (Pt. 1)“
- TurretinFan’s exegesis of Jude’s “twice dead” trees
Episode 73: Exterminate Annihilate Destroy [ 1:07:04 | 61.43 MB ] Play Now | Play in Popup | Download (2356)
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Jesus didn’t experience eternal death on the cross, or else He would still be there! He didn’t experience annihaliation either. He did experience God’s wrath in sufficient quantity to purchase our redemption. My understanding is that when the punishing is complete (levels of suffering) then his existence ceases completing the second death. We have no way of knowing how long, or what this punishing entails beyond earthly descriptions of the event which communicate it is not any place you would want to be, even for a moment. I do not believe that they just pop out of existence without suffering involved, for they have to pay the price because they rejected the payment our Savior made.
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